Few players are so skillful at fantasy role playing games as to not benefit from advice.
Also, many readers will be new to this form, if not totally uninitiated.
So what follows are some basic guidelines as to how good players approach the game,
and as continued success tends towards even more achievement,
those who play well might actually become great.

The most common form of ADVANCED DUNGEONS & DRAGONS play is the underground adventure,
whether in dungeons, cave complexes, temple mazes and labyrinths, or whatever.
The main thrust of this section will logically aim at improving play in just those sorts of settings.
The outdoor and city adventure will be touched on thereafter.
Now assume that a game is scheduled tomorrow,
and you are going to get ready for it well in advance so as to have as much actual playing time as possible --
no sense in spending precious adventuring minutes with the mundane preparations common to the game.

First get in touch with all those who will be included in the adventure, or if all are not available,
at least talk to the better players so that you will be able to set an objective for the adventure.
Whether the purpose is so simple as to discover a flight of stairs to the next lowest unexplored level or so difficult as to find and destroy on altar to an alien god,
some firm objective should be established and then adhered to as strongly as possible.
Note, however, that inflexibility or foolish stubbornness is often fatal.
More about that a bit later.

Once the obiective has been established, consider how well the party playing will suit the needs which it has engendered.
Will the characters have the means of accomplishing the goal?
Is it well-balanced, so that it can cope with typical problems expected in the fullfillment of the objective?
Will it be necessary to find mercenary NPCs or hire men-at-arms in order to give the party the necessary muscle?
Is any special equipment needed?
When agreement regarding these and any similar questions has been reached, each participant must ready his or her character,
but preparations must be made with the welfare of the whole group in mind.

Co-operation amongst party members is a major key to success, particularly when the characters are relatively low-level.
Later, when players have characters of 9th, 10th, or even higher level it will be a slightly different matter,
for then some adventures will be with but one or two player characters participating,
and the balance of the group will be made up of henchmen whose general co-operation is relatively assured.
But to gain the upper levels, it is essential that a character survive,
and survival at lower levels is usually dependent upon group action and team spirit.
Co-operation must begin when the party prepares for the adventure and continue through safe return to base and division of spoils --
including the special treatment required for any unfortunate characters cursed, diseased, maimed, or killed.

Each character has a selection of equipment which he or she will carry on the adventure.
Particulars should be given to the party if any equipment is possibly redundant,
newly conceived, or of possible special use considering the established goal for the adventure. In like manner,
spells must be selected in co-operation with other spell-users in general, so that attack, defense,
and assistance modes will be balanced properly and compliment the strengths and weaknesses of the party as a whole.
Characters must know each other's strengths and weaknesses, physical and mental,
in order to meet the problem posed with the correct character or combination thereof.
Does the group have sufficient equipment of the elementary sort to meet both expected and unexpected challenges
(ropes, spikes, poles, torches, oil, etc.)?
Are we burdening ourselves with too much because of simple duplication
(too many torches, everybody hasa 10' pole, and so on)?.
Do we have as broad a spectrum of spells as possible so as to be able to have a good chance against the unexpected,
considering the objective and what it requires in spells?
Is there some magic item which one of the party members possesses that will be of special help,
or general assurance of survival, in this adventure?
All this should be done before play begins,
for it is time consuming,
and the readying of a party can require several hours if there are more than six characters involved.

At the same time preparations for the upcoming expedition are under way,
each player should see that his or her character has made proper preparations as well.
These preparations include the safety of henchmen and/or goods which are to remain behind,
wealth safely hidden or placed, instructions as to what to do if the character fails to return left with a trusted person,
and a "will" of some sort written out so that the DM will not balk at the arrangements made to assure the smooth transition of goods to the devoted "relative" of the defunct character if those sore straits should ever come to pass.

With everything just about all set to go, a few more touches will be of great help.
Assign formations for the group - 10' corridor, 20' corridor, door opening,
and any other formation which your party might commonly assume.
It is always a wise idea to have the very short characters in the front rank,
elves and dwarves to the flanks, and at least one sturdy fighter in the rear if the party is sufficiently large.
Draw these formations out on paper (possibly your referee will require copies for reference), identifying each character carefully.
The leader who is to make decisions and give directions for the party must be in the front rank,
or in the second rank if he or she is tall compared to the characters before.
The leader should keep a sketch or trailing map as the adventure gets underway, and another member of the expedition should keep a carefully drawn map as well.

A word about mapping is in order.
A map is very important because it helps assure that the party will be able to return to the surface.
Minor mistakes are not very important.
It makes no difference if there is a 20' error somewhere as long as the chart allows the group to find its way out!
As it is possible that one copy of the party's map might be destroyed by mishap or monster,
the double map is a good plan whenever possible -- although some players have sufficiently trained recall so as to be able to find their way back with but small difficulty, and these individuals are a great boon to the group.
If pursuit prevents mapping, always go in a set escape pattern if possible - left-straight-right-straight, etc.
Such patterns are easy to reverse.
In mazes always follow one wall or the other, left or right, and you will never get lost. If transported or otherwise lost, begin
mapping on a fresh sheet of paper, and check for familiar or similar places as you go along.
Never become despondent; fight until the very end.

When everything is all set, it will take only a very few minutes to organize
the group for the adventure once time for actual play begins.
Your referee will certainly appreciate this, for his or her enjoyment comes from adventuring,
not from waiting for a party to get their act together.
With your objective all set, it will also be a relatively quick trek to the "jumping off" area,
as the expedition leader will be able to give clear and concise directions on how to get there to the DM,
and that means there will be few monster dice,
for the party is marching along quickly down known passages, not mapping or otherwise tarrying.

Avoid unnecessary encounters.
This advice usually means the difference between success and failure when it is followed intelligently.
Your party has an objective, and wandering monsters are something which stan between them and it.
The easiest way to overcome such difficulties is to avoid the interposing or trailing creature if at all possible.
Wandering monsters typically weaken the party through use of equipment and spells against them,
and they also weaken the group by inflicting damage.
Very few are going to be helpful; fewer still will have anything of any value to the party.
Run first and ask questions later. In the same vein,
shun encounters with creatures found to be dwelling permanently in the dungeon
(as far as you can tell, that is) unless such creatures are part of the set objective or the monster stands between the group and the goal it has set out to gain. Do not be sidetracked. A good referee will have many ways to distract an expedition, many things to draw attention, but ignore them if at all possible.
The mappers must note all such things,
and another expedition might be in order another day to investigate or destroy something or some monster, but always stay with what was planned if at all possible, and wait for another day to handle the other matters. This is not to say that something hanging like a ripe fruit ready to be plucked must be bypassed, but be relatively certain that what appears to be the case actually is. Likewise, there are times when objectives must be abandoned.

If the party becomes lost, the objective must immediately be changed to discovery of a way out.
If the group becomes low on vital equipment or spells, it should turn back.
The same is true if wounds and dead members have seriously weakened the group's strength.
The old statement about running away to fight another day holds true in the game. It is a wise rule to follow.

On the other hand, if the party gains its set goal and is still quite strong,
some other objectives can be established, and pursuit of them can then be followed.
It is of utmost importance, however, to always carry slain members of the expedition with the party if at all possible,
so even if but a lone character is lost, it is usually best to turn back and head for the surface.

Co-operation assumes mutual trust and confidence,
and this is enhanced when members are certain that the survivors will do their best to see that any slain character is carried forth from the dungeon to be resurrected if at all possible.
All members of the expedition should be ready and willing to part with any goods,
money, and magic items in order to save lives.
Failing that, each should be willing to fight to the death to assure the survival and success of the party.
This will happen when mutual trust exists.
What about evil alignment? Selfish neutrals? Unco-operative players?

Intelligent players of evil alignment will certainly be ready to help in order to further their own ends.
This is not to say that they will be chummy with those of good alignment,
but on a single expedition basis it is possible to arrange situations where they are very likely to desire to be helpful in order to benefit themselves and their cause.
Generally evil characters, particularly chaotic evil ones, are prone to be troublesome and hurtful to the party.
They should accordingly be shunned when possible.
Selfish neutrals are similar to evil characters, but their price is usually easier to meet,
and it is therefore easier to integrate them into an expedition which will depend on co-operation for success.
The character of good alignment who is basically unco-operative
-- often acting as an evil or (selfish) neutral would --
is another matter, for such players usually join under the pretense of being helpful and willing to act in the best interest of the party.
Undoubtedly the best way to take care of such players is to expel them from the group as soon as circumstances permit.
Do this as often as is necessary to either change the player's mind about co-operation,
or until he or she becomes tired of having their characters consigned to oblivion because of their attitude.

So much for the underworld adventure.
Most of what was said regarding successful expeditions there also applies to outdoor and city adventures as well.
Preparation and mutual aid are keys to these sorts of adventures also.
It is not usually possible to return to home base in the wilderness,
but a place of refuge can be found and used in order to rebuild a party's strength.
The party should avoid confrontations with monsters which are obviously superior and always seek to engage monsters at an advantage. City adventures are the toughest of all, for they are more difficult to plan and prepare for. Yet with care, and a careful adherence to co-operative principles, they can be successfully handled with the guidelines stated above.
Setting out with an objective in mind, having sufficient force to gain it,
and not drawing undue attention to the party in the course of accomplishing the goal should serve to bring such adventures to successful conclusion.

Superior play makes the game more enjoyable for all participants, DM and players alike.
It allows more actual playing time. It makes play more interesting.
The DM will have to respond to superior ploy by extending himself or herself to pose bigger and better problems for the party to solve. This in turn means more enjoyment for the players.
Successful play means long-lived characters, characters who will steadily, if not rapidly, gain levels.
You will find that such characters become like old friends; they become almost real.
Characters with stories related about their exploitbe they cleverly wrought gains or narrow escapes- bring o sense of pride and accomplishment to their players, and each new success odds to the luster and fame thus engendered.

The DM will likewise revel in telling of such exploits ...
just as surely as he or she will not enjoy stories which constantly relate the poor play of his or her group!
Some characters will meet their doom,
some will eventually retire in favor of a new character of a different class and/or alignment; but playing well is a reward unto itself,
and old characters are often remembered with fondness and pride as well.
If you believe that ADVANCED DUNGEONS & DRAGONS is a game worth playing,
you will certainly find it doubly so if you play well.

Q: If player characters manage to kill off every monster in a dungeon,
can they then take the dungeon over for their own?

A: This depends upon the DM, but actually there is no reason
why the characters couldn't do this. In truth, it might not be
such a bad idea, from the standpoint of campaign balance; the
cost involved in renovating the ex-dungeon, hiring workers, getting
new materials, and so forth will eat up enormous sums of
cash. Whenever the players leave the dungeon to go somewhere,
new monsters (a few) might move in if they haven't properly
warded and guarded the place. Characters involved in fixing the
place up won't be able to adventure for a long time if they personally
supervise everything. Maybe the ruler of the dungeon
had some friends from other places (maybe even from some
Outer Planes) who plan to drop in sometime; they might not
like seeing that the ownership of the dungeon has changed
hands. Of course, there will always be the chance that things
might tunnel up from below one day . . . like drow, mind flayers,
troglodytes, orcs, purple worms, umber hulks -- the list goes on
and on. You get the idea.
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Fid wrote:

Yep, our dwarves always served as our "tanks". We always put them by themselves in the first rank of the marching order with the other front line fighters in the second rank waiting to step up.

We figured the Dwarf's higher constitution/hit points gave him the best chances to survive any traps. Interesting enough, neither of our two main "tanks" made it through our twenty-plus years. Novwek Epsid is still trapped in one of Acererak's teeth and his protege, Nan-Dreglos, was lost to the Bag of Devouring you put in that damn soup tureen!

Heh, and in large party dungeon forays, the dwarves, gnomes and halflings former the front rank, then elves and humans with spears fought behind them, and the spell casters fired off their attacks from the third rank using the intervals between the two files before them.

Ah, and how grand it is to recall conceiving the bag of devouring :lol:

Cheers,
Gary
 

Flash Gordrax wrote:
Greetings EGG!
Glad to see your doing well and in good spirits. I hope this new year will bring good things for you and that your health will continue to improve.

I have a question concerning the old days. When the idea of the balanced adventuring "party" (3-12 guys each specializing in one thing working together to accomplish a goal) was created, was this a natural evolution of table top war games, an idea taken from television/movie, a favorite novel (for instance: The Hobbit / LOTR wizard, fighters, halfling-thieves), or perhaps inspired by a sport like football (each position performing a role moving toward a common objective).

Anyway, stay healthy and keep working (its good for the soul and prevents yellow mold from taking hold).

The chaps playing the game pretty much developed the concept of a balanced party.
When we first began playing most parties were mainly fighters, and we got in trouble when facing spell-casters without our own artillery for fire counter-battery 

Eventually, the large parties of PCs dungeon crawling in Greyhawk Castle were arrayed in three ranks with the halflings and dwarves in front, then elves and short humans,
and the tallest in the rear--with any additional PCs behind them covering the backs of those ahead.

The short answer is that the concept evolved from play of the game.

Happy New Year,
Gary
 

oldschooler wrote:
Here's a generic question posted in General Discussion that I was curious about:

If they can see the whole cave it is easy. Give general distance to the cardinal directions in the cave, locating the spot from which the party is observing. Note irregularities and possible exits by direction (or clock numbers).

If the party can not see the distant walls, they must walk around the perimiter of the cavern and get the description in 30 or 60 foot incriments thus, or venture out into the unknown central region. possibly guiding their path in a straight line by using a torch left at their point of departure and another at about 60 feet distance from that spot. Looking back and linging up the two gives a reasonable correct directional guideline.

Cheers,
Gary
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by schnee
Ah, my apologies for not being specific enough. The question I asked was about the original Tomb of Horrors (wholly contained within RttToH). The room I mentioned is #21, 'The Agitated Chamber'; it contains the tapestries and floor I speak of. After thinking about it a bit, I guess they're traps for players who lose sight of their intended goal - looting instead of trying to find and slay the great evil.

...

Ah, yes of course. the"mechanical bull" reference threw me off. The room where the movement will rip the tapestries if being handled, cause them to revert to their actual material, green slime, is exactly as you discerned, a trap for greedy PCs who have lost sight of their mission.

I have a sheet posted for my players that says: "FOCUS: MISSION, GOAL, OBJECTIVES, Strategy, Tactics, Logistics" 

Cheers,
Gary
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Treebore

I definitely hate the attitude that it is the DM's job to keep the PC's alive. I agree that I should leave them the ability to run, but I think everything else is up to them.
That is indeed the spirit in which the game was devised, so in that regard you are spot on as our English fellows say.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Treebore
Then again, I love Tomb of Horrors, Lost Caverns of Tsojanth, and all the other "killer" dungeons. I like bragging rights. Whether it is for having survived or died in the most gruesome and/or original manner. Or for having died 8 times, and every time being from failing to save versus the death/20 poison. 8 consecutive failed saves against the same type of poison. Thankfully the DM decided my obvious allergy towards it had become severe enough that I would break out in hives and have a sneezing fit just from coming within 5 feet of it. Decanter of Endless Water became my great "wash the poison away" friend. 

Again, I agree with what you stete in regards to the merits of difficult dungeons. Even if one loses one's PC therein, the enjoyment of relating the circumstances of that demise to a group of gamers that had similar experiences is well worth the loss IMO. I managed to get Yrag and several of his cohorts through a dungeon similar to Tsojcanth, one that Rob Kuntz created and DMed. I foolishly had the party seek out an orange area of the map I glimpsed, and the lot were nearly incinerated when I finally managed to stumble upon the sole means of ingress to the chamber. I quit that sort of fudging after that 

Those that claim using various means of discovering deadly areas, flunkies, animals, even a 10' pole, is not "thinking" are certainly not themselves rational.
It requires planning and thought to do that...

Cheers,
Gary
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by RFisher
In another thread, it has been implied--if not explicitly stated--that this quote of yours indicates that you yourself are a munchkin or powergamer. How do you plead? (^_^)

Would you believe a capable stratigest and tactician desirous of playing a PC so as to maximize his potential and excel in performing his role within the party or as an individual aventuring in the campaign setting, so as to succeed in reaching objectives and goals as established by a character mission statement?

Cheerio,
Gary

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flexor the Mighty!
That's just badwrongfun Gary. You suck.

please don't put me in the tomb of horrors 

And here I thought it was simply a matter of playing the game as well as I could...even with a bit of yakking and character voice included. So...

It is not the ToH that you are off to but rather to the Isle of the Ape to play with Oonga 

Gary