MORNING STAR

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                                               Damage vs. Opponent
Weapon Type Cost Approximate
Weight in
Pounds
Size S or M Size L   Notes  Length Space Required Speed Factor 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Morning star 5 gp 12.5 2-8 2-7 1H or 2H <>: includes Godentag <Goedendag : "club-spear"> and 
    Holy Water Sprinkler
c. 4' 5' 7 0 0 0 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +1 +2 +2

Question: I was glancing through my PH at
the Weight & Damage by Weapon Type Table at the Notes.
After the Morning Star explanation I saw, “includes Goden-
tag and Holy Water Sprinkler.” I did some research on the
Holy Water Sprinkler and found it to be of all things, a GUN!
In D&D you aren’t supposed to have guns or even gun-
powder. Why include it in the PH if it is a gun?

Answer: From Webster’s Dictionary: Morning star: Noun, translation
of Gmortenstern; a weapon consisting of a heavy ball set with spikes
and either attached to a staff or suspended from one by a chain; called
also holy water sprinkler.
    The only use of this term to mean a gun which we are aware of is a
modern nickname for a terrorist weapon that sprays large numbers of
bullets into crowds. — WN
 

Question: Aside from the obvious ones (pole arms and
bows), which of the listed weapons are two-handed?

Answer: A battle axe, spear, morning star and bastard sword can
be, and a bo stick, quarterstaff, two-handed sword and a trident
always are.

Q: What is a morning star?
A: A morning star looks like a long, thin
club with spikes or flanges at the business
end. The morning star in the AD&D game
is similar to a mace but is longer and
heavier. Some books on weapons identify a
ball and chain as a morning star, but this
combination is considered to be a flail in
the AD&D game.
(150.9)
 



oldschooler wrote:
Hey! Something I've always wondered about, but kept forgetting to ask about:

Morning stars; what are they (in AD&D terms) exactly?
Spiked balls chained to sticks (I thought that was a horseman's flail)?
Spiked balls attached directly to sticks (I thought that was a mace)?
Could you clear these three weapons up for me as they appear in Advanced Dungeons & Dragons?
The Dungeon Master's Log pictures a horseman's flail as a spiked ball(s) chained to a handle.
There is no such picture of a mace or morning star.
My assumption: a mace is a glorified club, consisting of a blunt weight at one end of a shaft.
A morning star is the same thing, but with blood-drawing spikes attached. Am I far off?
 


Heh...

Any good book on arms & armor will show various examples og the morning star.
the main one is a club set at the business end with a steel ring drom which spokes project as do the rays from a star.
think of it as the size of a baseball bat.

the other weapons you describe are correctly identified, although a spiked ball is properly a morning star, not a mace, as they are generally smooth-headed or have phlangEs.

Cheers,
Gary