L^: i7	-	R#: *	-	D^: *
C^: *	-	CT: *	-	S^: *
A^: *	-	-	-	-

* As appropriate to the spell in question

Effect: The illusionist gains four of the following first level magic-user spells at the 14th level of experience and an additional
one as each additional level of experience is gained. The spells are:

Affect Normal Fires,
Burning Hands,
Charm Person,
Comprehend Languages,
Enlarge,
Erase,
Feather Fall,
Friends,
Hold Portal,
Magic Missile,
Mending,
Message,
Nystul's Magic Aura,
Protection from Evil,
Read Magic,
Shield,
Shocking Grasp,
Sleep,
Tenser's Floating Disc,
Unseen Servant.

The illusionist may learn any spell or spells from the preceding list.
He or she must seek the spells in the some manner as a magic-user.
If the illusionist chooses to take this"spell', he or she actually takes four or more
first level magic-user spells as a seventh level spell.
 

Q: My DM says that my 14th-level
illusionist casts magic missiles
(gained from the seventh-level spell
first-level magic-user spell) as
though he were a 1st-level magicuser.
Is he right?

A: Your DM is right, but your illusionist
does get to cast four first-level magic-user
spells for each seventh-level spell he gives
up. Note that illusionists cast their magicuser
spells at one level higher for each
level beyond 14th, so that a 20th-level
illusionist casts magic missiles at 7th level.
(145.12)

<note: see Gary's note, below>
<should the list be extended with a few UA spells?>

Quote:
Originally Posted by Virel
Gary, would you share your views on the Illusionist class regarding the following?

...

A) At 14th level the Illusionist can take 4 1st level Mu spell and gains another at each level. This was for learning spells and for casting. So a 23rd level Illusionist would be able to 13 1st level Mu spells at 23rd level ability.

That's right, but being able to use them does not mean that the character has an extra 13 ist level spells, only the potential to select those spells as memorized ones to use, as set forth below.
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Virel
B) At 14th level the Illusionist can take 4 1st level Mu spell and gains another at each level. This was for learning spells and NOT for casting. Each 1st level Mu spell took up a spell slot for a 7th level Illusionist spell. In other words, the Illusionist would take Weird, Prismatic Spray, Alter Reality (just short of a wish) or a 1st level Magic User spell like Read Magic or Sleep for a 7th level spell slot. The casting would be done at the Illusionist given level. ie 14th level Illusionist casts magic missile at 14th level mastery.

Just so.
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Virel
C) As B but the 1st level magic user spell is cast at 1st level ability for a 14th level Illusionist.

No, they cast them as if 14th level magic-users. that makes their magic missile use meaningful.
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Virel
Thank you again, for answer my prior question about sleep.

Happy to be of service,
Gary